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Le 30 octobre 2022 à 21:30:39 :
Si Lula repasse devant Bolsonaro

Il est à 47% actuellement

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 21:06:39 :
Personne ne veut la destruction de la Russie, c'est un très beau payshttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/24/6/1655577587-ahi-triangle-clopent.png

Cela fait des décennies que les élites occidentales essaient de diviser et détruire ce pays mais oui, personne veut la détruire et le problème est Vladimir Poutine. :sarcastic:

Vous êtes là à parler de cette guerre, alors que Jair Bolsonaro est en train de faire un putsch au Brésil
Dire que les gens parlaient de la chute de Chine, UE ou Russie pendant des mois pour que ce soit Brésil qui se casse la gueule comme ça, du jour au lendemain, à la stupéfaction de tous :rire:

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 20:33:17 :
les pays occidentaux et autres pays vassaux des USA vont "sanctionner" le Brésil surtouthttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/38/5/1663921748-ahi.png

Les républicains adorent Jair Bolsonaro
Jamais ils voteront pour les sanctions

Jair Bolsonaro avait dit, y a quelques mois, qu'il utiliserait l'armée en cas de défaite
Si sa santé lui permet, Édouard Philippe deviendra président.

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 17:47:08 :
T'es en manque ?

Non

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 17:41:54 :
La Russie ne colonise pas, elle libère :ok:

Ce serait bien que les soldats russes viennent coloniser libérer ton cul...

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 17:23:59 :
Pourquoi quatre shitholes de l'Europe de l'est (pas la Russie) sont devant nous ????

C'est parce-que on est GR ?

Un meilleur système éducatif grâce à l'héritage soviétique, sans doute. Les professeurs français étaient surpris à quel point les jeunes réfugiés ukrainiens avaient une avance considérable sur leurs élèves-étudiants français. :hap:

Classement des olympiades internationales de mathématiques :

  1. Chine
  2. États-Unis
  3. Russie
  4. Corée du Sud
  5. Hongrie
  6. Allemagne
  7. Roumanie
  8. Viêt Nam
  9. Bulgarie
  10. Royaume-Uni
  11. Iran
  12. Japon
  13. Ukraine
  14. Canada
  15. Thaïlande
  16. Australie
  17. France
  18. Singapour
  19. Corée du Nord
  20. Italie

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 12:09:42 :
Poutine dit bonjour, c'est un aveux de faiblesse

Vladimir Poutine respire, c'est un aveu de faiblesse.

However I'm trying to understand what Putin feels that he's offering to other nations.

Putin is the President of Russia, not other nations. His actions are supposed to be motivated by concerns for Russia's well-being, not that of other nations.

Thus, a part of justification for the current war is ensuring the existence of Russia against the constant NATO encroachment, seeking to station weapons that'd allow a disarming and beheading first strike against Russia which could prevent the use of the Russian WMDs for self-defense (and the US is steadily sinking trillions into the projects that only make sense for such a scenario, from all kinds of Prompt Global Strike to anti-ballistic defense to stationing cruise missiles in Europe, any of which can be nuclear-tipped, under the pretense of establishing allied anti-missile protection). Which is why two of the three diplomatic demands that Russia made of the Ukraine during the negotiations were: neutral status (that is, no NATO membership) and demilitarization.

On the PR level, however - you know, the same space where the US claims it's "exporting freedom and democracy" by reducing cities to rabble and gang-raping little girls before pouring gasoline over them and setting them alight to justify moving the money from the state coffers to the private ones of the military-industrial complex, - in the current war, Putin likes to talk about shared identities, nationalist oppression, and so on. It's not even that he's wrong, technically, it's just irrelevant for the vast majority of the audience. Well, as irrelevant as freedom and democracy were to the Iraqis or the Afghanis or the Libyans, I guess.

What the population of the People's Republics wants, of course, is simple: the same thing Crimea got. Russia has a GDP per capita three times that of the Ukraine, average wages twice higher, state-funded medical and educational systems that are, of course, not without problems, but still much better than anything available in the Ukraine. Furthermore, essentially the entirety of the Ukrainian industry that is more complex than growing corn and rapeseed is integrated into the shared technological chains with Russia, and is thus only competitive as an exporter on the Russian market. To add to that, in Russia there are dozens of state languages (most of them at federal subject level, yet still), when the Kievan government is very serious about showcasing how harsh it is in suppressing the usage of Russian in particular - and a large share of the Ukraine, particularly in the East, are Russian speakers.

The implicit agreement, then, is Russia providing them all these nice things to the best of its ability. Not really successful at that so far, though.

What is Putin offering when he invades Georgia or Ukraine?

Uh, ever cared to look up the facts? Georgia started the war in 2008 by shelling South Ossetia - its region that had been de-facto independent since the 90ies, after a civil war and an independence referendum, as well as the Russian peacekeepers stationed there by both sides' (that is, including Georgia) agreement. Russia did not ""invade"" Georgia, much less planned to change the way it was governed - it simply forced it to stop the American-instigated after the Munich speech attack against the Russian military and civilians. Hence, the official governmental narrative of "forcing Georgia into peace".

Similarly, the Russian demands from the Ukraine did not originally include any territorial concessions. As a matter of fact, if you've read the Minsk Agreements, they include the People's Republics reintegrating into the Ukraine something the locals, as you might imagine, took for a treachery - which in a way it was.

It's iterative, really.
  • An Ukrainian President who at least attempted to maintain the balance between Russia and the West he's casually referred to as "pro-Russian", yet no one has ever named a single policy of his that'd be to Russia's benefit rather than that of the Ukraine and/or himself is overthrown in an illegal coup, despite an agreement guaranteed by multiple top European diplomats. Ostentatious displays of anti-Russian direction of the new government are made, its first legal action revoking even the regional status of the Russian language. Russia moves to return Crimea into the fold.
  • The East of the Ukraine rebels after repeated spits in the face of any diplomatic efforts, culminating in the Second of May Massacre in Odessa. The Ukraine loses the hot stage of the civil war Russia aiding the rebels, of course, but the whole thing apparently started by the local oligarch Akhmetov and his Russian peer Malofeev, yet the peace agreements signed include the return of the territories under the rebel control to the Ukraine if amnesty is granted and their rights are ensured.
  • Despite the treaty signed, the Ukraine continues low-level civil war, constantly shelling the rebel territories and refusing to pass the laws mandated by the treaty; its Western guarantors entirely ignore that, despite the Kievan government being utterly at their mercy due to only surviving on their loans. When the Ukrainian President openly talks about the plans to join NATO and produce own nuclear weapons, Russia starts a full-scale invasion, demanding now that the People's Republics are recognized as not a part of the Ukraine, Ukrainian neutrality is ensured, and the Ukraine undergoes denazification.
  • When these demands are not met, and Russia occupies two additional regions of the Ukraine including Kherson, which means the Soviet-built channel is opened to supply Crimea with water again, as the war draws out, Russia declares it's annexing the People's Republics and the newly conquered regions - which makes all kinds of sense to convince the locals it's not going anywhere, minding that "collaboration" like continued work at the hospitals in these regions or accepting Russian humanitarian aid are felonies (treachery) by the Ukrainian law, and their Azov nazis publish videos with mass graves being filled with the "collaborators" from the territories the Russian army has left.
  • The way things are going, I don't see any way for this war to end other than the Ukrainians pushing out Russian forces from the People's Republics, Crimea, and maybe Kuban highly unlikely, any of that - increasingly unlikely left to right, actually, or the Russian forces occupying the entirety of the Ukraine.

This sequence of events to me demonstrates not the desire for imperial revanche in the Kremlin, but entirely reactive escalation, answering the actions of the other side.

Like what is good about his style of government that others don't have right now?

See above about Russia's economy vastly outperforming that of the other ex-Soviet nations, other than those surviving on EU subsidies. If you want the very primitive and cynical version, most post-Soviet nations are either kleptocratic oligarchies (Georgia, the Ukraine, Armenia) or equally kleptocratic monarchies (Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Belorussia). Putin's version adds an ideologically-motivated center that acts as an arbiter between the power groups and ensures that they not only use the profits from being in power to line their pockets, but also to build something to show to the populace to ensure its continued compliance.

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/yf5q2f/comment/iu95w6a

Kamala Harris prendra sa place. Les républicains ont des dossiers sur elle pour la destituer ?

Enfin, je l'avais déjà dit que si les républicains gagnaient les élections de mi-mandat, ils essaieraient de mettre Kevin McCarthy à la tête du pays mais, pour ça, faut qu'ils aient également le sénat et que tous les élus républicains suivent ce plan.

Le 30 octobre 2022 à 07:41:12 :
Ils ont peut être prévu des céréales pour l'Afrique, il ne va pas laisser ses alliés crever de faim.

C'est exactement ça
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-is-ready-supply-up-500000-t-grain-poorest-countries-tass-2022-10-29