La PSYCHOLOGIE/PSYCHIATRIE c'est REDPILL sur REDPILL
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Personne ne m'a répondu donc je repose ma questionOnt peut faire quoi comme métier en lien avec la psychologie/psychiatrie sans avoir des études de psycho à la fac.
Car c'est un domaine qui m'intéresse beaucoup, j'aimerais vraiment travailler dans la psychologie sauf que je peut pas me permettre de faire 4/5 ans à la faccoach en développement personnel
Le problème c'est que sa n'est pas un métier reconnu.
secrétaire d'un cabinet
femme de ménage d'un cabinet
gardien de prison
tu peux passer le concours sans faire d'étude
travailler dans les ressources humaines et faire passer des tests aux employés de la boite pour "dynamiser l'effet de groupe"Sinon t'as aussi voyant/marabout. Tu dis aux gens ce qu'ils veulent entendre et tu te fais un max de blé. Exactement comme les psy.
Ou sinon souffrologue si tu fais bien ton taff t'aura des client à la chaîne souvent des maman qui reçoive les conseil d'autre maman au taff et autre, tu peux en baisé + vivre de ça
J'aime ton pseudo
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Encore meilleur sur du pain de campagne.
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J'espère que tu ne crois pas au bullshit de l'hypothèse du déséquilibre chimique comme cause de la dépression
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/
Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain. Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory. But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong. Instead of curing depression, popular antidepressants may induce a biological vulnerability making people more likely to become depressed in the future.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2019.00407/full
The aim of this review is to evaluate the placebo effect in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin or norepinephrine in the brain. However, analyses of the published and the unpublished clinical trial data are consistent in showing that most (if not all) of the benefits of antidepressants in the treatment of depression and anxiety are due to the placebo response, and the difference in improvement between drug and placebo is not clinically meaningful and may be due to breaking blind by both patients and clinicians. Although this conclusion has been the subject of intense controversy, the current article indicates that the data from all of the published meta-analyses report the same results. This is also true of recent meta-analysis of all of the antidepressant data submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the process of seeking drug approval. Also, contrary to previously published results, the new FDA analysis reveals that the placebo response has not increased over time. Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Research_on_antidepressants
Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom. He is the author of the 2009 book, The Emperor's New Drugs.
Hop hop hop on achète et on prend ses pilules
https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjebm-2019-111238
The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/14/4/1585853522-larry-mask.png Quelle serait la cause selon toi ?
Et oui l'effet placebo peut fonctionner mais on évite de l'utiliser à tort et à traversC'est ce que prouvent les meta-analyses de Kirsch, chef de recherche à Harvard
après les kheys je suis pas du tout quelqu'un qui m'y connait mais quand je vois comment sont certaines meufs durant ou avant leur règles genre elles chialent pour rien, n'arrivent pas à relativiser alors que le reste du temps elles sont plutot positives je me dis que c'est clairement possible que ce soit purement hormonal
après je parle pas des autodiag
Les hormones jouent évidemment mais on parle des antidépresseurs
Qu'ils augmentent ou diminuent la serotonine (par exemple) les résultats sont pareilsah daccord, donc les antidprésseurs sont des placebos? Ils sont tous pareils d'ailleurs ou y'a différents types?
- The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
- Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
On aimerait bien savoir d'où sort cette connerie.
J'ai déjà tout posté bordel sortez-vous les doigts https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/message/1122490728 . Cette connerie ce sont les conclusions de plusieurs meta-analyses d'Irving Kirsch :
- Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom.
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On aime aussi voir à qui on a affaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Response_expectancy_theory
"En 2014, dans le Research Digestde la British Psychological Society,Christian Jarrett inclut l’étude de Kirsch sur l’effet placebo antidépresseur 2008 dans une liste des 10 études de psychologie les plus controversées jamais publiées "
D'accord, je vois. Il s'agit donc d'un conspiro qui fait de la pub pour vendre ses torchons.
Rien de bien noble, en somme.
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Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:48:07 :
Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:45:44 :
Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:38:30 :
J'espère que tu ne crois pas au bullshit de l'hypothèse du déséquilibre chimique comme cause de la dépression
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/
Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain. Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory. But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong. Instead of curing depression, popular antidepressants may induce a biological vulnerability making people more likely to become depressed in the future.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2019.00407/full
The aim of this review is to evaluate the placebo effect in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin or norepinephrine in the brain. However, analyses of the published and the unpublished clinical trial data are consistent in showing that most (if not all) of the benefits of antidepressants in the treatment of depression and anxiety are due to the placebo response, and the difference in improvement between drug and placebo is not clinically meaningful and may be due to breaking blind by both patients and clinicians. Although this conclusion has been the subject of intense controversy, the current article indicates that the data from all of the published meta-analyses report the same results. This is also true of recent meta-analysis of all of the antidepressant data submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the process of seeking drug approval. Also, contrary to previously published results, the new FDA analysis reveals that the placebo response has not increased over time. Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Research_on_antidepressants
Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom. He is the author of the 2009 book, The Emperor's New Drugs.
Hop hop hop on achète et on prend ses pilules
https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjebm-2019-111238
The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/14/4/1585853522-larry-mask.png Quelle serait la cause selon toi ?
Et oui l'effet placebo peut fonctionner mais on évite de l'utiliser à tort et à traversC'est ce que prouvent les meta-analyses de Kirsch, chef de recherche à Harvard
après les kheys je suis pas du tout quelqu'un qui m'y connait mais quand je vois comment sont certaines meufs durant ou avant leur règles genre elles chialent pour rien, n'arrivent pas à relativiser alors que le reste du temps elles sont plutot positives je me dis que c'est clairement possible que ce soit purement hormonal
Les hormones jouent évidemment mais on parle des antidépresseurs
Qu'ils augmentent ou diminuent la serotonine (par exemple) les résultats sont pareilsah daccord, donc les antidprésseurs sont des placebos? Ils sont tous pareils d'ailleurs ou y'a différents types?
- The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
- Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
On aimerait bien savoir d'où sort cette connerie.
J'ai déjà tout posté bordel sortez-vous les doigts https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/message/1122490728 . Cette connerie ce sont les conclusions de plusieurs meta-analyses d'Irving Kirsch :
- Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom.
(Fiche Wiki)On aime aussi voir à qui on a affaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Response_expectancy_theory
"En 2014, dans le Research Digestde la British Psychological Society,Christian Jarrett inclut l’étude de Kirsch sur l’effet placebo antidépresseur 2008 dans une liste des 10 études de psychologie les plus controversées jamais publiées "
D'accord, je vois. Il s'agit donc d'un conspiro qui fait de la pub pour vendre ses torchons.
Rien de bien noble, en somme.
Mais t'es mongolo ou bien ? Evidemment que c'est controversé il a jeté un pavé dans la mare
Il a fait une seconde meta-analyse ensuite en prenant en compte toutes les critiques
El famoso conspiro illuminé directeur des recherches d'Harvard sur le placebo
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Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:50:05 :
Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:48:07 :
Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:45:44 :
Le 30 avril 2021 à 22:38:30 :
J'espère que tu ne crois pas au bullshit de l'hypothèse du déséquilibre chimique comme cause de la dépression
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/
Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain. Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory. But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong. Instead of curing depression, popular antidepressants may induce a biological vulnerability making people more likely to become depressed in the future.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2019.00407/full
The aim of this review is to evaluate the placebo effect in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin or norepinephrine in the brain. However, analyses of the published and the unpublished clinical trial data are consistent in showing that most (if not all) of the benefits of antidepressants in the treatment of depression and anxiety are due to the placebo response, and the difference in improvement between drug and placebo is not clinically meaningful and may be due to breaking blind by both patients and clinicians. Although this conclusion has been the subject of intense controversy, the current article indicates that the data from all of the published meta-analyses report the same results. This is also true of recent meta-analysis of all of the antidepressant data submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the process of seeking drug approval. Also, contrary to previously published results, the new FDA analysis reveals that the placebo response has not increased over time. Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Research_on_antidepressants
Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom. He is the author of the 2009 book, The Emperor's New Drugs.
Hop hop hop on achète et on prend ses pilules
https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjebm-2019-111238
The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/14/4/1585853522-larry-mask.png Quelle serait la cause selon toi ?
Et oui l'effet placebo peut fonctionner mais on évite de l'utiliser à tort et à traversC'est ce que prouvent les meta-analyses de Kirsch, chef de recherche à Harvard
après les kheys je suis pas du tout quelqu'un qui m'y connait mais quand je vois comment sont certaines meufs durant ou avant leur règles genre elles chialent pour rien, n'arrivent pas à relativiser alors que le reste du temps elles sont plutot positives je me dis que c'est clairement possible que ce soit purement hormonal
Les hormones jouent évidemment mais on parle des antidépresseurs
Qu'ils augmentent ou diminuent la serotonine (par exemple) les résultats sont pareilsah daccord, donc les antidprésseurs sont des placebos? Ils sont tous pareils d'ailleurs ou y'a différents types?
- The benefits of antidepressants seem to be minimal and possibly without any importance to the average patient with major depressive disorder. Antidepressants should not be used for adults with major depressive disorder before valid evidence has shown that the potential beneficial effects outweigh the harmful effects.
- Other treatments (e.g., psychotherapy and physical exercise) produce the same benefits as antidepressants and do so without the side effects and health risks of the active drugs. Psychotherapy and placebo treatments also show a lower relapse rate than that reported for antidepressant medication.
On aimerait bien savoir d'où sort cette connerie.
J'ai déjà tout posté bordel sortez-vous les doigts https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/message/1122490728 . Cette connerie ce sont les conclusions de plusieurs meta-analyses d'Irving Kirsch :
- Irving Kirsch (born March 7, 1943) is Associate Director of the Program in Placebo Studies and a lecturer in medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.[1] He is also professor emeritus of psychology at the Universities of Hull and Plymouth in the United Kingdom, and the University of Connecticut in the United States.[2][3] Kirsch is a leading researcher within the field of placebo studies who is noted for his work on placebo effects, antidepressants, expectancy, and hypnosis. He is the originator of response expectancy theory, and his analyses of clinical trials of antidepressants have influenced official treatment guidelines in the United Kingdom.
(Fiche Wiki)On aime aussi voir à qui on a affaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kirsch#Response_expectancy_theory
"En 2014, dans le Research Digestde la British Psychological Society,Christian Jarrett inclut l’étude de Kirsch sur l’effet placebo antidépresseur 2008 dans une liste des 10 études de psychologie les plus controversées jamais publiées "
D'accord, je vois. Il s'agit donc d'un conspiro qui fait de la pub pour vendre ses torchons.
Rien de bien noble, en somme.
Mais t'es mongolo ou bien ? Evidemment que c'est controversé il a jeté un pavé dans la marre
Il a fait une seconde meta-analyse ensuite en prenant en compte toutes les critiques
Le "fameux pavé dans la mare". Personne ne suit l'avis de ce clown.
El famoso conspiro illuminé directeur des recherches d'Harvard sur le placebo
On a eu la même avec Raoult et Luc Montagnier, récemment, le mongolo.
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