Un épéiste plus puissant qu'elle dans un un autre manga ?

Non mais l'auteur , t'es bien mignon avec ton personnage , mais c'est un peu une random , donc t'étonnes pas de voir des Zoro en réponse si tu donnes pas ses pouvoirs et capacités d'emblée de jeu.

Vous vous rendez compte que comparer des personnages d'univers différents n'a aucun sens?

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:28 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:55:25 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :
la division 0 du gotei 13

Très drôle

ichibei change ton nom, renomme ton sabre, te donne les capacités qu'il veut et se donne les capacité qu'il veut, supprime ton corps manipule l'existence de son adversaire et ses capacités

et ça c'est drôle ?

Je connais Ichibei et j'ai lu Bleach hein
Ichibei fait rien du tout, Dlanor est plus grande que des multivers, ses attaques sont impossibles à esquiver ou contrer, elle a une vitesse incommensurable (au delà de l'espace et du temps, ton Ichibei se ferait blitz par un personnage ayant une vitesse infinie) et même si tu effaces son concept, elle peut revenir à la vie

Cette discussion de récréation....

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:43 gokumanseiya a écrit :
Non mais l'auteur , t'es bien mignon avec ton personnage , mais c'est un peu une random , donc t'étonnes pas de voir des Zoro en réponse si tu donnes pas ses pouvoirs et capacités d'emblée de jeu.

Zorro est vraiment nul si on le compare à d'autre épéiste de d'autre shonen mainstream

N'importe quel Shinigami du Gotei 13 peut vaincre zorro a partir de la , faut éviter de citer Zorro

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:07:43 crowblue93 a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:04 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:04:24 crowblue93 a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:01:28 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:57:25 AnAppleTree a écrit :
Giorno GER avec une épée en bois dans la main n'en déplaise aux rageux

Non

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:58:57 crowblue93 a écrit :
reinhard de re zero ?

Je sais pas qui c'est et je connais pas ses capacités

Sword Saint: Swordsmanship maxes out, and become able to draw Raid, the Dragon Sword.

Arrow avoidance: he cannot be hit by projectiles. (this is why sword that Elsa threw went around him on its own).

Arrow guarantee: any projectile he uses is guaranteed to hit the target.

Magic resistance: No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him.

Fire avoidance: 80% reduction from fire damage.

Wind absorption: 80% of wind magic is absorbed.

Earth resistance: Earth magic have 80% reduced effect on him.

Water reflection: 80% water magic is reflected.

Darkness immunity: 80% of darkness magic is nullified.

Light sharing: 80% light magic is shared to another target.

Swiftness: He can move at superhuman speed. This affects mounts as well.

Riding mastery: He can ride any animals.

Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhardt connects.

First attack immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.

Preceeding attack immunity: The second attack and all following attacks misses him.

Rain blessing: He gains power in rain.

Sun blessing: He gains power in sunny weather.

Night's blessing: He gains power during night.

Morning blessing: he gains power during morning.

Mind reading: Vague understanding of what's on other people's mind.

Item mastery: able to know how to use any item he holds.

Unarmed mastery: Very strong even without any weapons.

Blessing of War god: able to use any weapons masterfully.

Blessing of Lake: Can walk on water.

Blessing of Mist: Mist do not hinder his view.

Blessing of Cloud: can walk on cloud.

Blessing of lightning: Lightning will never strike him.

Sodium knowledge: He will never get salt and sugar mixed up.

Taste king: No matter how he cook, the food will come out delicious.

Blessing of Frying, Steaming, Boiling: Complete mastery of all the cooking methods.

Clothes designing: Can design fabulous clothes that will surely start a fad.

Master Teacher: His students become successful in learning.

Training mastery: Can train not only his body, but also other people, to their maximum potential.

Poison immunity: Immune to all poison.

Illness immunity: Immune to all sickness and disease.

Power bleeding: Bleeding actually makes him stronger.

Blessing of the Phoenix: Upon death, he is granted a "continue?" once.

Mais du coup il survit comment si elle l'attaque avec sa Vérité Rouge ?
Il peut la tuer comment ?

Je connais pas du tout ce pouvoir tu peux me le dire ?

En gros son épée efface le concept de l'adversaire et quand elle attaque avec tu ne peux pas contrer, esquiver ou gagner du temps vu que son épée efface aussi ces 3 concepts

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:10:10 Kehk a écrit :
Cette discussion de récréation....

Toujours mieux que des topics de Fake Tinder,Boucle,Haine etc

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:43 gokumanseiya a écrit :
Non mais l'auteur , t'es bien mignon avec ton personnage , mais c'est un peu une random , donc t'étonnes pas de voir des Zoro en réponse si tu donnes pas ses pouvoirs et capacités d'emblée de jeu.

apparemment dans son manga de cyberpucelard ultime y'a des personnages venus d'univers différents et elle est peut les effacer, effacer le concept même de leur univers donc voila tu peux pas gagner
ton personnage n'existe même pas
après ceux qui propose des humains vanilla vous abusez

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:15 Deecay a écrit :
Kami Tenchi avec une épee en bois

Tenchi qui la met dans son harem

Ce topic qui suinte la pucelerie....https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/19/1494439848-1480747392-picsart-12-03-07-22-54.png

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:10:05 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:28 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:55:25 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :
la division 0 du gotei 13

Très drôle

ichibei change ton nom, renomme ton sabre, te donne les capacités qu'il veut et se donne les capacité qu'il veut, supprime ton corps manipule l'existence de son adversaire et ses capacités

et ça c'est drôle ?

Je connais Ichibei et j'ai lu Bleach hein
Ichibei fait rien du tout, Dlanor est plus grande que des multivers, ses attaques sont impossibles à esquiver ou contrer, elle a une vitesse incommensurable (au delà de l'espace et du temps, ton Ichibei se ferait blitz par un personnage ayant une vitesse infinie) et même si tu effaces son concept, elle peut revenir à la vie

plus grande que des multivers ça n'a aucun sens

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:08:51 PaxLa9elba a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:36 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:05:15 PaxLa9elba a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:04:10 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:02:12 PaxLa9elba a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:55:25 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :
la division 0 du gotei 13

La division zéro a été mis en PLS par les Stern Ritters

Et Ichibe a été One shot par Yhwach

Et Dlanor peut littéralement one shot le Bleach verse
Elle dit en rouge "le Bleach verse n'existe pas" et sa Vérité Rouge remplacera la vérité, donc tout le Bleach verse sera effacé

Non mais en faite ce que tu ne comprends pas c'est que n'importe quel personnage d'Unimeko peut détruire n'importe quel personnage d'autre animé....

Unimeko = animé sans aucun sens.

Non des personnages d'autres animés peuvent vaincre des personnages d'Umineko

Pas les 10 plus fort en tout cas...

Pas les 3/4 plus forts et les autres c'est un débat

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:15 Deecay a écrit :
Kami Tenchi avec une épee en bois

Donc Kami Tenshi est encore surcoté aujourd'hui ? Sérieux ?

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:39 Kaori_Chan8 a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:04 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:04:24 crowblue93 a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:01:28 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:57:25 AnAppleTree a écrit :
Giorno GER avec une épée en bois dans la main n'en déplaise aux rageux

Non

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:58:57 crowblue93 a écrit :
reinhard de re zero ?

Je sais pas qui c'est et je connais pas ses capacités

Sword Saint: Swordsmanship maxes out, and become able to draw Raid, the Dragon Sword.

Arrow avoidance: he cannot be hit by projectiles. (this is why sword that Elsa threw went around him on its own).

Arrow guarantee: any projectile he uses is guaranteed to hit the target.

Magic resistance: No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him.

Fire avoidance: 80% reduction from fire damage.

Wind absorption: 80% of wind magic is absorbed.

Earth resistance: Earth magic have 80% reduced effect on him.

Water reflection: 80% water magic is reflected.

Darkness immunity: 80% of darkness magic is nullified.

Light sharing: 80% light magic is shared to another target.

Swiftness: He can move at superhuman speed. This affects mounts as well.

Riding mastery: He can ride any animals.

Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhardt connects.

First attack immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.

Preceeding attack immunity: The second attack and all following attacks misses him.

Rain blessing: He gains power in rain.

Sun blessing: He gains power in sunny weather.

Night's blessing: He gains power during night.

Morning blessing: he gains power during morning.

Mind reading: Vague understanding of what's on other people's mind.

Item mastery: able to know how to use any item he holds.

Unarmed mastery: Very strong even without any weapons.

Blessing of War god: able to use any weapons masterfully.

Blessing of Lake: Can walk on water.

Blessing of Mist: Mist do not hinder his view.

Blessing of Cloud: can walk on cloud.

Blessing of lightning: Lightning will never strike him.

Sodium knowledge: He will never get salt and sugar mixed up.

Taste king: No matter how he cook, the food will come out delicious.

Blessing of Frying, Steaming, Boiling: Complete mastery of all the cooking methods.

Clothes designing: Can design fabulous clothes that will surely start a fad.

Master Teacher: His students become successful in learning.

Training mastery: Can train not only his body, but also other people, to their maximum potential.

Poison immunity: Immune to all poison.

Illness immunity: Immune to all sickness and disease.

Power bleeding: Bleeding actually makes him stronger.

Blessing of the Phoenix: Upon death, he is granted a "continue?" once.

Mais du coup il survit comment si elle l'attaque avec sa Vérité Rouge ?
Il peut la tuer comment ?

Tout ses coups touchent et ceux de son opposant ne touchent pas

Impossible de le debuff, s'il meurt bah il revient

Je vais faire des recherche sur lui, je sens que je vais perdre mon temps mais ok

Lucilius de granblue fantasy tout simplement
Sans vergogne
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/50/5/1607654249-lucilius-12-wings.pnghttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/50/5/1607654264-true-form.png

Name: Lucilius, Faa-san

Origin: Granblue Fantasy

Gender: Male

Age: At least 2000 years old

Classification: Astral Primal Beast Chimera

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Magic, Blessed (Turned The Speakers core into 12 wings bestowing him the power of the speaker), Acrobatics, Enhanced Senses, Weapon Mastery and Weapon Creation (Created 12 Dark Opus weapons that defies creation and stand against the laws of God),
Elemental Manipulation (Capable of striking on different elemental properties),

Abstract Existence (Type 1 in its true form), Resurrection and Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, 8 in its true form; Astral primal beast chimera who have transplanted his head into the body of lucifer resurrecting himself),

Regeneration (Mid-Godly; Primals are able to regenerate after being reduced to their concept),

Chaos Manipulation and Darkness Manipulation (Can blind target with orbital darkness),

Creation and Summoning (Can create and summon primal beast and created the original primal beast),

Mind Manipulation (Can forcefully control primal beast other than the original primal beast),

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3 and 4; Astrals were able to turn other creatures and things to Primals, manipulating their essence to become concepts and myths themselves),

Curse Manipulation (Can curse with fruit of life and forbidden fruit),

Fear Manipulation (Iblis strikes petrify targets rendering them unable to charge for their special attacks),

Damage Boost (Evangelist blades boost his damage potency and 1st to 6th labor greatly amplifies elemental potency),

Damage Reduction (greatly weakens any damage he takes with wings of word to the point it no longer posses harm),

Death Manipulation (with gopherwood ark), Durability Negation (12th labor and Paradise lost ignores conventional durability and all attacks ignores conventional durability if evangelist blade is stacked to max or with 8th labor),

Light Manipulation (can manipulate and attack with light),

Teleportation (Can teleport and was seen using it to get inside Etemenanki),

Existence Erasure and Void Manipulation (His weapons defy creation and posses nothingness that stand against the law of god),

Flight, Forcefield Creation (creates a shield that reduces potency by half if not of the same element),

Necromancy (can turn enemies into zombie making them take damage upon healing),

Genius Intelligence and Preparation (plotted the whole encroachment of chaos and his resurrection and the end of everything and has multiple back up plans should the plan fail in the process),

Dimensional Travel (Primarchs and other beings in Astral Realm can travel to Sky Realm at will),

Clairvoyance (Scaling from Primarchs like Lucifer who can see things at future as seen in Olivia's Fate Episode)

Healing (with 9th labor he recovers faster with healing),

Holy Manipulation (can manipulate holy energy with lucifers body),

Information Analysis (was able to study and analyze evolution and discovered the final evolution of all creation),

Explosion Manipulation (his attacks causes explosion),

Non-Corporeal (primal beast can change into its non-corporeal form at will),

Perception Manipulation (Orbital Darkness blinds the target),

Reactive Evolution (with 7th labor his attack will always be an element that the enemy is weakest with),

Power Nullification (can nullify status affliction and Statistics Amplification and many abilities with 11th labor),

Sealing (Can seal the ability to summon and skill),

Statistics Reduction (Can permanently decrease durability with axion apocalypse if at max evangelist blade),

Status Effect Inducement (with 10th labor he will inflict numerous status afflication as the battle progresses),

Time Manipulation (Can accelerate time with Heaven's Floodgate),

Transformation (Transform upon using Seven Trumpets),

Spatial Manipulation and Portal Creation (Astrals can create portals by cracking space),

Resistance to Power Nullification, Gravity Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Petrification, Statistics Reduction, Fear Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, Empathic Manipulation and Poison Manipulation (Has very high debuff resistance, which includes all of these effects),

Resistance to Law Manipulation (Dark Opus renunciation weapons posses the ability to use nothingness that can stand against the laws of god and defies creation),

Negates Resurrection and Immortality (Gopherwood ark or death from Paradise lost negates immortality and resurrection making death ineluctable).

Attack Potency: Planet level (Shouldn't be weaker than primal beast who he can control and create as astral) | Multi-Solar System level (Able to fend off Sandalphon and Captain's attack, as the one who is using Lucifer, the supreme primarch's body, he should be superior to Archangels and thus to any Primals) | Multi-Solar System level (Stronger with 12 wings and capable of dealing blows that no one in the creation can counter, making his attacks stronger than Inchoate World who can create countless stars, can likely create countless stars as well with Orbital Darkness) | Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets)

Speed: Sub-Relativistic (Shouldn't be slower than Baal for he created the original primal beast that are superior) | Massively FTL+ (Blitzed and severely injured Beelzebub and fended off Captain and Sandalphon's attack) | Massively FTL+ (Blitzed primarch wing Sandalphon) | Massively FTL+ (Faster than before)

Lifting Strength: Class K (Shouldn't be weaker than sky dwellers who can lift large enemies with ease) | Multi-Stellar | At least Multi-Stellar | At least Multi-Stellar

Striking Strength: Planet Class | Multi-Solar System Class | Multi-Solar System Class | Multi-Solar System Class

Durability: Planet level | Multi-Solar System level (Taken hits from Captain without suffering any serious injury) | Multi-Solar System level (12 wings made him tougher and can reduce damage taken to minimal with wings of the word) | Multi-Solar System level (Tougher than before)

Stamina: High as astral, possibly limitless as Chimera Primal.

Range: Extended melee range with spear and sword to Stellar with magic.

Mars: Lucilius losses wings of the word but curses enemy with forbidden fruit making them take damage that ignores durability if they try to perform a special attack
The Fig: Lucilius regains Wings of the word and curses the enemy with Fruit of life regenerating lucilius if they try to perform a special attack
Sephiroth: Lucilius Starts counting down for The End and nullifies any affliction.
Phosporous: Slams the sword of repudiation nullifying and negating any statistic amplification.
Wings of the word: Passively Modifies any damage received making them significantly weaker to the point that it barely poses any harm to lucilius.
Evangelist Sword: Damage increases as more special attacks are used. starts ignoring durability if charged to the max
Iblis: Strikes the enemy with Sword of renunciation multiple times weakening them to that point that they cannot move
Orbital Blackness: swallows the target with darkness and cause a massive explosion
Axion: Shoots out 3 light beam.
Paradise Lost: Summon Rays of Light Ignores conventional Durability and ignores immortality and resurrection
Gopherwood Ark: Accelerates time. Nullifies any resurrection and immortality and prevents summoning
The End: Rays of Light that ignores durability and negates immortality and resurrection
Seven Trumpets: Lucilius Releases the seven trumpets revealing his true form and gains twelve labors that are resistant to power negation.

Même goku Ultra instinct maîtrisé et Jiren full power réuni se font cassé en deuxhttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/4/1530827992-jesusreup.png

C'est juste n'imp, il retourne 3/4 des verse existant avec un doigthttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/47/3/1605692999-vava.png

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:33:04 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:30:10 Acepazent a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:29:39 RuphasMafahl a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:28:34 Acepazent a écrit :
Kirito

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:28:43 kikineeur a écrit :
Mihawk

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 13:28:55 Norss a écrit :
Ichigo, Erza, Zoro

Donc personne pour donner une réponse sérieuse ?

Je suis sérieux

Tu l'as connais ?
Voilà les caractéristiques de son armehttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/04/2/1611664283-verite3.pnghttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/04/2/1611664296-verite4.png
En gros si elle t'attaque tu ne peux plus te protéger, tu ne peux plus esquiver, tu ne peux plus gagner du temps parce que son arme efface tout les concepts défensive et évasive

Son arme peut effacer son ennemi au niveau conceptuelle et elle est littéralement plus rapide que l'infini (elle peut arriver au bout d'un espace infini pendant un temps fini)

Puceau de légende.https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/48/1480546095-risitas-moine2.png

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:43 gokumanseiya a écrit :
Non mais l'auteur , t'es bien mignon avec ton personnage , mais c'est un peu une random , donc t'étonnes pas de voir des Zoro en réponse si tu donnes pas ses pouvoirs et capacités d'emblée de jeu.

J'ai rattraper mon erreur en expliquant certains de ses pouvoirs et pourtant les fanboys continuent de sortir leurs perso faibles

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:11:01 PaxLa9elba a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:09:43 gokumanseiya a écrit :
Non mais l'auteur , t'es bien mignon avec ton personnage , mais c'est un peu une random , donc t'étonnes pas de voir des Zoro en réponse si tu donnes pas ses pouvoirs et capacités d'emblée de jeu.

Zorro est vraiment nul si on le compare à d'autre épéiste de d'autre shonen mainstream

N'importe quel Shinigami du Gotei 13 peut vaincre zorro a partir de la , faut éviter de citer Zorro

Ils ont même citer Guts et je crois même pas qu'il bat Sakura

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:11:24 crowblue93 a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:10:10 Kehk a écrit :
Cette discussion de récréation....

Toujours mieux que des topics de Fake Tinder,Boucle,Haine etc

Non non, c'est encore pire niveau vacuité rêve pas

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:06:28 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 14:55:25 Mimi_Matty_en_J a écrit :
la division 0 du gotei 13

Très drôle

ichibei change ton nom, renomme ton sabre, te donne les capacités qu'il veut et se donne les capacité qu'il veut, supprime ton corps manipule l'existence de son adversaire et ses capacités

et ça c'est drôle ?

Alors pas tout à fait...

Ichibei peut uniquement renommer les zanpakuto ce qui est logique puisqu'il en est le fondateur

Hors , les clé de Dlanor ne sont pas des zanpakuto donc ne peut être effacé.

Ensuite , Ichibei c'est fait "one shot" (tuer en un seul coup) par la majesté Yhwach
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/04/2/1611670428-610ichibei-is-blasted.pngil c'est fait décapité en un seul coup , Yhwach en a fait qu'une bouchée.

De toute manière la division zéro est pas très puissante hein je dirai même qu'Ichigo final arc est plus puissant que n'importe quel Shinigami de la division zéro

Le 26 janvier 2021 à 15:12:47 Sandalphone a écrit :
Lucilius de granblue fantasy tout simplement
Sans vergogne
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/50/5/1607654249-lucilius-12-wings.pnghttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/50/5/1607654264-true-form.png

Name: Lucilius, Faa-san

Origin: Granblue Fantasy

Gender: Male

Age: At least 2000 years old

Classification: Astral Primal Beast Chimera

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Magic, Blessed (Turned The Speakers core into 12 wings bestowing him the power of the speaker), Acrobatics, Enhanced Senses, Weapon Mastery and Weapon Creation (Created 12 Dark Opus weapons that defies creation and stand against the laws of God),
Elemental Manipulation (Capable of striking on different elemental properties),

Abstract Existence (Type 1 in its true form), Resurrection and Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, 8 in its true form; Astral primal beast chimera who have transplanted his head into the body of lucifer resurrecting himself),

Regeneration (Mid-Godly; Primals are able to regenerate after being reduced to their concept),

Chaos Manipulation and Darkness Manipulation (Can blind target with orbital darkness),

Creation and Summoning (Can create and summon primal beast and created the original primal beast),

Mind Manipulation (Can forcefully control primal beast other than the original primal beast),

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3 and 4; Astrals were able to turn other creatures and things to Primals, manipulating their essence to become concepts and myths themselves),

Curse Manipulation (Can curse with fruit of life and forbidden fruit),

Fear Manipulation (Iblis strikes petrify targets rendering them unable to charge for their special attacks),

Damage Boost (Evangelist blades boost his damage potency and 1st to 6th labor greatly amplifies elemental potency),

Damage Reduction (greatly weakens any damage he takes with wings of word to the point it no longer posses harm),

Death Manipulation (with gopherwood ark), Durability Negation (12th labor and Paradise lost ignores conventional durability and all attacks ignores conventional durability if evangelist blade is stacked to max or with 8th labor),

Light Manipulation (can manipulate and attack with light),

Teleportation (Can teleport and was seen using it to get inside Etemenanki),

Existence Erasure and Void Manipulation (His weapons defy creation and posses nothingness that stand against the law of god),

Flight, Forcefield Creation (creates a shield that reduces potency by half if not of the same element),

Necromancy (can turn enemies into zombie making them take damage upon healing),

Genius Intelligence and Preparation (plotted the whole encroachment of chaos and his resurrection and the end of everything and has multiple back up plans should the plan fail in the process),

Dimensional Travel (Primarchs and other beings in Astral Realm can travel to Sky Realm at will),

Clairvoyance (Scaling from Primarchs like Lucifer who can see things at future as seen in Olivia's Fate Episode)

Healing (with 9th labor he recovers faster with healing),

Holy Manipulation (can manipulate holy energy with lucifers body),

Information Analysis (was able to study and analyze evolution and discovered the final evolution of all creation),

Explosion Manipulation (his attacks causes explosion),

Non-Corporeal (primal beast can change into its non-corporeal form at will),

Perception Manipulation (Orbital Darkness blinds the target),

Reactive Evolution (with 7th labor his attack will always be an element that the enemy is weakest with),

Power Nullification (can nullify status affliction and Statistics Amplification and many abilities with 11th labor),

Sealing (Can seal the ability to summon and skill),

Statistics Reduction (Can permanently decrease durability with axion apocalypse if at max evangelist blade),

Status Effect Inducement (with 10th labor he will inflict numerous status afflication as the battle progresses),

Time Manipulation (Can accelerate time with Heaven's Floodgate),

Transformation (Transform upon using Seven Trumpets),

Spatial Manipulation and Portal Creation (Astrals can create portals by cracking space),

Resistance to Power Nullification, Gravity Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Petrification, Statistics Reduction, Fear Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, Empathic Manipulation and Poison Manipulation (Has very high debuff resistance, which includes all of these effects),

Resistance to Law Manipulation (Dark Opus renunciation weapons posses the ability to use nothingness that can stand against the laws of god and defies creation),

Negates Resurrection and Immortality (Gopherwood ark or death from Paradise lost negates immortality and resurrection making death ineluctable).

Attack Potency: Planet level (Shouldn't be weaker than primal beast who he can control and create as astral) | Multi-Solar System level (Able to fend off Sandalphon and Captain's attack, as the one who is using Lucifer, the supreme primarch's body, he should be superior to Archangels and thus to any Primals) | Multi-Solar System level (Stronger with 12 wings and capable of dealing blows that no one in the creation can counter, making his attacks stronger than Inchoate World who can create countless stars, can likely create countless stars as well with Orbital Darkness) | Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets)

Speed: Sub-Relativistic (Shouldn't be slower than Baal for he created the original primal beast that are superior) | Massively FTL+ (Blitzed and severely injured Beelzebub and fended off Captain and Sandalphon's attack) | Massively FTL+ (Blitzed primarch wing Sandalphon) | Massively FTL+ (Faster than before)

Lifting Strength: Class K (Shouldn't be weaker than sky dwellers who can lift large enemies with ease) | Multi-Stellar | At least Multi-Stellar | At least Multi-Stellar

Striking Strength: Planet Class | Multi-Solar System Class | Multi-Solar System Class | Multi-Solar System Class

Durability: Planet level | Multi-Solar System level (Taken hits from Captain without suffering any serious injury) | Multi-Solar System level (12 wings made him tougher and can reduce damage taken to minimal with wings of the word) | Multi-Solar System level (Tougher than before)

Stamina: High as astral, possibly limitless as Chimera Primal.

Range: Extended melee range with spear and sword to Stellar with magic.

Mars: Lucilius losses wings of the word but curses enemy with forbidden fruit making them take damage that ignores durability if they try to perform a special attack
The Fig: Lucilius regains Wings of the word and curses the enemy with Fruit of life regenerating lucilius if they try to perform a special attack
Sephiroth: Lucilius Starts counting down for The End and nullifies any affliction.
Phosporous: Slams the sword of repudiation nullifying and negating any statistic amplification.
Wings of the word: Passively Modifies any damage received making them significantly weaker to the point that it barely poses any harm to lucilius.
Evangelist Sword: Damage increases as more special attacks are used. starts ignoring durability if charged to the max
Iblis: Strikes the enemy with Sword of renunciation multiple times weakening them to that point that they cannot move
Orbital Blackness: swallows the target with darkness and cause a massive explosion
Axion: Shoots out 3 light beam.
Paradise Lost: Summon Rays of Light Ignores conventional Durability and ignores immortality and resurrection
Gopherwood Ark: Accelerates time. Nullifies any resurrection and immortality and prevents summoning
The End: Rays of Light that ignores durability and negates immortality and resurrection
Seven Trumpets: Lucilius Releases the seven trumpets revealing his true form and gains twelve labors that are resistant to power negation.

Même goku Ultra instinct maîtrisé et Jiren full power réuni se font cassé en deuxhttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/4/1530827992-jesusreup.png

C'est juste n'imp, il retourne 3/4 des verse existant avec un doigthttps://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/47/3/1605692999-vava.png

Non mais son perso efface l'univers du tiens donc t'as perdu
il faut un personnage qui dépasse les concepts dimensionnel pour avoir une chance

Quand je dis épéiste je parle d'un combattant à l'épée mais même si le personnage peut utiliser des techniques puissantes sans arme ça compte aussi à partir du moment où il a une épée

N'importe qui d'autres je suppose alors